Keen Home  | Blog Policies  | Help
Welcome to Community Sign in | Join | Help

Boundaries

How to keep healthy boundaries in your relationships

Don't Fear the Basher....

First off let me say.... I HATE  labels, it gives you a false idea that might not be accurate about a someone, it pre-judges and pre-supposes your interaction before it happens. Labeling means you do not take this person as they are, you have already decided what and how your interaction will go. Whether you are optimistic about it or pessimistic about it, you will always be right.

Was I ever a basher? Nah, but I well could have been as could anyone who calls, it is their right. Was I a difficult client? Yes I sure was, I got emotional, and called way too much for way too long so I can relate.

 

What makes a basher? Bashers don't just happen, they evolve. They start out calling one or two readers, GREAT NEWS! He's your soulmate, he's leaving his wife, he's going to marry you, buy you a ring, and it's MARVELLOUS. It's ALL good until time goes on with not much changing.

And then after a while, he's not acting like your soulmate, he's still with his wife and he aint buying no ring...... So you call more and more, too much in fact, so much that it makes it hard to get an accurate reading, all the while spending more money. It becomes a habit, and yet nothing is happening? Why can that happen? It does happen and that is the problem. There is no one answer to why readings do not manifest. Each case is different. It could be as simple as meddling by the caller in the situation. Someone getting impatient so they manipulate, they cajole, they passive agressively try to control the pace or the relationship. They yell, threaten, they say things they do not mean, and do not follow through...until they are not being taken seriously by the other person.  They may have trained their partner to expect them to do all the work and then get MAD when they ARE doing all the work, so easy to happen and harder to undo once done. It's OK to hold back, allow the other person to do SOME of the work.  The predictions might not manifest because of someone changing their mind ( I don't know about you but I want to be able to change my mind at any time about anything). It could be as simple as that, no one fits all answer.

 

I have no idea why the feedback issue evokes such strong emotions.  I have thousands of unrated calls, but feedback is not my focus, so I do not ask for it, I find that unprofessional. Normally the bad feedback is more about the caller than the advisor, unless the advisor acted inappropriately during the interaction. I never presume that a few bad feedbacks left by a caller will result in me being left bad feedback being left for me. I also never presume that I will always be right, that is just not possible, I strive for the best reading each time I sign on and I never sign on if I do not feel that I can give my best. So I will take that call, even from someone who has been known to leave bad feedback, and I will do my best to give a good, solid, honest, and accurate reading to the best of my ability. I know that behind the bad feedback may be months or years of pain and I can relate.

Two people will never experience an interaction the same way, does that make either of them wrong? No, it does not but if you pay for something, you have the right to be satisfied with what you have paid for which is so much more difficult with something so difficult to quantify and measure.

I know that it's normally when you have given up the emotional attachment to what you want that it comes, and it comes because you have taken your eye off the kettle (situation) allowing it to boil and that is when it boils ( happens).

The universe has a quirky sense of humor and sometimes things happen in such a way that you could NEVER have forseen, never have guessed and no matter HOW many readings you got, it just did not happen the way you imagined... I suppose I would hate to know everything, it might spoil the fun, spoil you life in ways that if you knew everything it migth change YOU, might change YOUR behavior. Who REALLY knows all the answers, I KNOW that I don't.... my head hurts from all the pondering....

Joan

Published Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:59 PM by DruidsGlenTarot

Comment Notification

Subscribe to this post's comments using RSS

Comments

# re: Don't Fear the Basher.... @ Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:43 PM

Well, you speak of a sense of humor but I AM NOT LAUGHING. After so long without them another has left her mark. The site and my 1st words note no vague calls, specific questions.... I get a general query. THEN after I say that I don't want to keep the caller on, unless she has more questions, she hangs up and writes that I kept her on. I ANSWERED the query quickly. If I had done a lousy job, then an honest reply would be warranted. But Joan, I know this is supposed to be "ENTERTAINMENT" and maybe it is the BASHER who finds it entertaining to write up oppositional comments! Just a thought.

Moonstone01

# re: Don't Fear the Basher.... @ Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:55 AM

Unfortunately we cannot control how people act or leave feedback. She has the right to her perception of the interaction even if it was not your perception of it. In the REAL world people lie. This was NOT about you, this was about HER, and you have to learn to not take bad feedback so personally, it's rarely about you, it's so much more often about them.
You mentioned the humor, I said the universe has one in the way things happen and that had NOTHING to do you with your latest brush with a basher. I am not of the belief that people who are labelled as bashers so much so that advisors avoid taking their calls are spending their money sometimes up to $9 a min to write up oppositional comments. We as advisors are not that important to them and their lives that they would waste hard earned money so they could bash us. That's just not how I see it, you disagree but we don't see eye to eye on that one. I see no conspiracy in the feedback system, I see pain and frustration, and I know that behind those comments is a person who is tired of waiting for that wonderful prediction to manifest.

This in my humble opinion is NOT entertainment, do you honestly think that the woman calling to find out if the guy is leaving his wife is looking to be ENTERTAINED? We can call it what we want but people call for readings for guidance and to get a glimpse ahead for what to expect. *Entertainment Purposes* is more of a disclaimer in case the readings do not manifest Poissbly? This is not entertainment at least not in the way I see entertainment.
Joan

DruidsGlenTarot

# re: Don't Fear the Basher.... @ Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:30 AM

Actually, I am not really sure we disagree. Sometimes I think outloud and waiver on really WHAT I believe. I have done keen for a long time and go for long stretches of time with NO bashing. I think I offer a heart-felt, honest service. But just now again, I found someone ELSE (who has NOT rated yet) that scanning has rated ONLY substandard. Seriously, it is unbelievable. Some will be quick to say that it is ME. Sorry, but I just don't agree with that. I got a really good connection to a caller yesterday, felt I offered valuable input to her query and she rushed to leave comments that simply were not true. We waiver, does fee attract different types of energy? I lowered the rate, I know some cringe to that thought. No difference. Yet, if I say forget this, at that moment, one of my callers from 5 years ago, that was just trying to call will write I was just about to call you and you're now gone. Is there a cycle of the attack, I wonder? I did actually, get numb(ER) after this one. I seriously feel that people see me as their scapegoat. When we see a lot of these substandard ratings, they merely are reflecting themselves. I see these "VAGUE" responses and THAT is SO easy to read. DUDE, you come in vague, with your arms crossed, won't offer anything to get the thing going, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!?! Seriously, if I can be THAT good for some, than how can I be THAT bad for the next?!? AND again, this last one was just one for 2 minutes.

I'm just trying to help out at a reasonable rate. I can meet the standard competitive rate I suppose, create the illusion 'get what you pay for.' But I know darn well there are some high rate, highly rated that ARE fortune tellers, ONLY IN it for the money and entertainment purposes. Why does one doing it for the reason intended get bashed. Maybe I should just start telling them what they want to hear, eh?!  The delivery of the message is critical and usually they already know the answer. If you try to scam them, they usually already know the answer anyway so we're damned if we do and if we don't!

Moonstone01

# re: Don't Fear the Basher.... @ Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:00 AM

The reason I brought up advisor rates per minute is that I would find it hard to believe that anyone would call an advisor and their only intention for that call was to leave bad feedback. That for me is a completely different issue to what readers charge per minute, that is their own choice and perogative.
I am trying to examine the issue of what makes or motivates a client to leave bad feedback all over keen, that does not happen overnight, it is usually long time clents who have called over and over about the same relationship and or issue and have been being told predictions that have not manifested yet and quite frankly may never manifest.
That issue has nothing to do with whether you or I offer a heartfelt service. The feedback is not normally about YOU, it is normally more about the caller and regardless of the interaction they have the power to say whatever they want afterwards. The only way it has power is if you allow it to bother you, as the old saying goes * You can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time*
I know what my intentions are when I read, and I will be honest and truthful even if it means I will bashed, I will try to do so in a compassionate way as best I can and so be it, because I know that I have helped and guided many and hope to continue to do so as long as I can. I love what I do and am blessed to be able to do so. As my favorite saying goes


*May the sacredness of your work bring healing, light and renewal to those who work with you and to those who see and receive your work.*
From a book called AnamCara.

DruidsGlenTarot

What do you think?

(required) 
(required) 
(required) 
Enter the numbers you see into the
field below.
(required)